Re: renewals

From: Chuck Hatcher (chatcher@ashland-ky.net)
Date: Wed Jan 03 2001 - 07:09:50 EST


It looks like now the role of the RSP has been greatly reduced. Being the initial RSP for a domain name registration - the guy who marketed the service at a competitive price, found the customer, sold them on the idea of registration, and set them up with their functioning domain - only entitles you to be the sole source for a replacement username and password. All other functions can be done "anywhere OpenSRS domain names are sold", including management and renewal.

This is a major policy change which affects the feasibility of being an OpenSRS RSP. If you disagree, consider this: A week ago I was the only one who could renew one of my clients' domain registrations. Now anybody can, and I won't get so much as an email about it.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: e-creations
  To: ais@a-i-s.net ; Scott Allan ; Ken
  Cc: dev-list@opensrs.org
  Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:07 AM
  Subject: Re: renewals

  A Big can of worms.

  Consider all of the rsp's that maintain separate databases keeping track of renewal times and other billing that send out notices to customers that have unknowingly moved to another rsp. I can see this happening, and very frequently, and the results could be devastating for everyone involved.
  I know of all the trouble with networksolutions sending out past due notices after the domains have moved to another registrar, I get several a week for domains that I have had with opensrs for months. BUT I know to disregard those notices and to not run scared with my credit card in hand to renew before I lose them. Unfortunately the majority of the domain owners in the world haven't a clue what to do and will panic.
  What will happen when one unsavory rsp that knows of this issue and decides to mass mail all opensrs registered domain holders telling them they are about to lose their domain if they don't renew at Joe blows renewal site for $11 per year. We all know there will be one s.o.b. in the bunch that will do just that, then everyone can kiss that residual money goodbye. I myself am not in this for the fast buck, I'm expecting and counting on the long term, and to have the system like this doesn't look good for my business plan.
  You can count my vote for something to have the domain owner verify they would like to move to another rsp. Maybe a note to say "our records indicate you registered your domain through so and so, continuing with this process will move your service from so and so over to Joe blow, if you agree with this then continue, if you don't then go back to so and so's site and do it from there." That is my two cents worth.

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: A. I. Sinclair
    To: Scott Allan ; Ken
    Cc: dev-list@opensrs.org
    Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:20 PM
    Subject: RE: renewals

    Now this is certainly not kosher.

    I previously posted the fact that a registrant could administer his/her
    domain from any RSP's site. All the responses were in the vein of so what? -
    no harm done.

    This issue though may put that in a new light. You are looking at a
    Pandora's box or can of worms here.

    Unsuspecting customers are going to get caught out. You will have
    unintentional transfers, payments to one RSP but renewals charged to another
    RSP, customers billed for more or less than they were expecting - I am sure
    theare are more.

    I would suggest that there should be a conscious tranfer from one RSP to
    another RSP and not an automatic transfer if renewal is done from whatever
    site.

    Regards

    A. I. Sinclair

    Regards

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-dev-list@opensrs.org [mailto:owner-dev-list@opensrs.org]On
    Behalf Of Scott Allan
    Sent: Wednesday, 03 Jan 03, 2001 3:52 AM
    To: Ken
    Cc: dev-list@opensrs.org
    Subject: Re: renewals

    On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Ken wrote:

> Confused....
>
> What is to stop the owner of a domain from going to another RSPs site
> and submitting a renewal for their domain?

    Nothing really.

>We will lose the credits,
> since we are the RSP, right?

    Nope - the RSP sponsoring the renewal would.

    Regards,

    sA



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