Re: New Ideas for OpenSRS (or wish list) - Reseller Access

From: Coolfred Internet Services (coolfred@coolfred.org)
Date: Tue Mar 14 2000 - 10:04:17 EST


Never say 100% unless you are willing to bet your life on it!:-)

A domain name is not a perishable property such as food or gas. It is a considered a company asset (ask your accountant about the difference). So your analogy to food and gas is 99.99999% wrong. Additionally, yu are again wrong about using false credit cards to travel. I doubt it you will be able to fly American Airlines if you used bogus credit crads to buy the ticket, at best, instead of an airplane you will have cops waiting for you on Gate 1!!! Can you buy a house with fake credit cards and keep it? How about a computer? What about a webhosting plan from company ABC? You better have answered "NO"! A domain name is not any different from a webhosting package, a computer part or a company car.

Farhad Sadeghi
Coolfred Internet Services
http://www.coolfred.net

--- Tim Jung <tjung@igateway.net> wrote:
>Sorry but your 100% wrong here. This is the policy and risk you accepted
>when you decided to take credit cards. This is true in lots of industries.
>If someone buys a steak dinner, a few books at the bookstore and some gas
>for their car on my stolen credit card or stolen credit card number, then
>the bookstore, restaurant, and gas station are all out of luck. I don't pay
>for any of that and they lost out. Same thing is true in the travel industry
>as well. The credit card company will just have one question
>ultimately......do you have signed copy of the imprint of the card and did
>you swipe the card for the transaction....NO? Well then here is one charge
>back, your welcome. That is the policy of the credit card companies like it
>or not.
>
>Tim Jung
>System Admin
>Internet Gateway Inc.
>tjung@igateway.net
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Coolfred Internet Services" <coolfred@coolfred.org>
>To: <bscott@stockdogsaction.com>; <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:07 PM
>Subject: Re: New Ideas for OpenSRS (or wish list) - Reseller Access
>
>
>> Customer sends you a bad check or uses a bad credit card to buy 10 domains
>for 10 years. As soon as you get the authorization number or the check you
>release the password to the customer and lose control over the domains. 30
>days later you get a charge back on the credit card after the real owner
>sees their monthly statement. So you are already out $20 to $30 for the
>chargeback depending on your merchant account. but of course you can't get
>your hands on the domains and OpenSRS has already charged you $1000 for the
>domains. So how are we exactly supposed to recover this loss? would Tucows
>reimberse the $10 if a domain goes in default and is not paid for?
>>
>> It is rediculous to say this is "the risk" you must accept and this is
>like "any other business". If a guy doesn't pay for his hosting account, I
>simply lock his account. But to recover, say $1000, you would have to sell a
>100 domains for $20 to recover this loss.
>>
>> OpenSRS admins should seriously reconsider this policy. I for one, would
>volunteer my services as an arbitrar, if a customer claims that a reseller
>is being abusive of the power they are given. If a committee is setup and
>that committee looks after this, then what is the problem?
>
>[snip]
>
>> Farhad Sadeghi
>> Coolfred Internet Services

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