Re: Transfers: A bit of an explanation

From: ECS (edseward@cmpsource.com)
Date: Mon Apr 03 2000 - 14:18:52 EDT


> Of course the plaintiffs didn't listen when it was pointed out the even if
they
> did have ownership/control of bogus names, it would not put one single $
> back into their RSU account, so their argument was rendered moot from the
> start ...
> but they keep clamoring ... and tilting at mythical windmills.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric Ross
> QuickNames.com
>
I think the point that you keep missing is that loss of domain name would
eliminate some of the incentive for a fraudulent chargeback. Won't recover
the loss, just remove some of the incentive. And some of the other
registrars do return control of the domain name back to the RSP when this
happens.

As it stands now, I can register a domain name with you for 10 years, then
dispute the registration. Assuming the credit card company agees, then
under current policy, I get my money back and use of the domain name free
for the next ten years.

The agrument that no one will do this is specious.

We just had a hosting client chargeback nine months of hosting service. He
claimed that after nine months he discover the service did not meet his
requirements. Unfortuanately, he is overseas and his bank supported his
claim for a chargeback. We offered to refund the last month's service, but
he received the entire nine months from the bank. So we loss $135 for the
nine months service provided plus a $25.00 chargeback fee.

Of course we can take him to small claims court. :) Meaningless when he is
overseas. We did turn him into a collection agency, but this will only
ensure he has a black mark on his credit report, if this even matters in the
UK.

Now this is a minor amount, so it is not worth the expense nor time of
pursuing the issue further. Of course, we will hold his domain name hostage
to his actions, even through we don't control the domain name itself.
Everytime we recived a notice that he is attempting to transfer the domain
name away from our nameservers, we will send a copy of this entire matter to
his new hosting company, for their information, to see if they are
interested in providing him free service.

I admit this is very rare. It is only the second time we had this happen
and the first time was only three months service. And it has only happened
with non-US customers and their banks.

Do we expect this to be a major problem in registering domain names? No we
don't. Can it happen? Yes, it can and will, but hopefully it will be as
rare as it is in the hosting service.



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