Re[6]: "." before the "@"

From: William X. Walsh (william@userfriendly.com)
Date: Mon Jun 19 2000 - 16:18:05 EDT


Hello Derek,

Monday, June 19, 2000, 1:13:10 PM, you wrote:

DJB> At 01:05 PM 6/19/00 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>>Being righteously correct doesn't win you any customers, Derek. They
>>don't care if it is NSI's fault, their ISP's fault, etc.

DJB> Actually, many of the people DO care whose fault it is, and are happy to
DJB> see that someone is actually paying attention to the "rules of the game" as
DJB> opposed to just being yes-men to customers to get their cash. Customers are
DJB> brighter than you give them credit for. They appreciate people who are
DJB> putting quality ahead of all else.

Great, than you can make a tighter requirement, and enforce it on your
end, and use it as a selling point. You can do this without forcing
your narrow view on the rest of us, Derek.

>>Being righteously correct is nice if you can afford it. If you can,
>>then the way this is implemented you can do it.

DJB> But then I, as a reseller, am selling the services of a registrar that
DJB> isn't committed to standards-adherence. I'm selling my customers on
DJB> "excellence", except what they're REALLY getting is mediocre because the
DJB> default is to "not care" about data integrity or interoperability.

You control that, Derek. You can adhere to the standard, and that is
what your customers are getting. What you give them, Derek, is what
they are REALLY getting. You are in complete control of that, on
your own, and do not need to force the rest of the world to conform to
that same standard.

>>But that is no reason to force the rest of us to, when we have to
>>compete with those who aren't as righteous as you about it.

DJB> Really, it's up to the OpenSRS folks, not me. :) I just have a hard time
DJB> believing that there are really people out there who will "Settle" for
DJB> selling substandard services (and make no mistake, breaking a standard, by
DJB> definition, makes it sub-standard *G*) and then have the audacity to
DJB> attempt to justify such.

I do not consider accepting an email address to be affecting the
quality or standard of service. Personally, I see anyone taking that
high road to be overly rigid. And this is nothing personal, but the
ones I see taking that road are typically your old school internet
admins, who bemoan the state of the internet :)

DJB> People are leaving NSI because they're tired of all the problems they've
DJB> had with NSI. Showing them the e-mail address situation as a tangible
DJB> reason of "part of the problem with NSI" is a SELLING point, not a STICKING
DJB> point.

Great, you sell it that way. Personally, I don't see that nitpickiness
as being a strong selling point, and instead see it as a disadvantage.
The great part about the way OpenSRS could implement this is that it
would satisfy us both, giving us both the tools to implement our
views. Except for your need to enforce your view on the rest of us,
that is :)

I would hope that OpenSRS doing this would not affect your decision to
remain an RSP. I really think there are higher, more important, issues than the
parsing of an email address here.

-- 
Best regards,
 William                            mailto:william@userfriendly.com



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