Re[6]: "." before the "@"

From: Derek J. Balling (dredd@megacity.org)
Date: Mon Jun 19 2000 - 16:32:19 EDT


At 01:18 PM 6/19/00 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>Great, than you can make a tighter requirement, and enforce it on your
>end, and use it as a selling point. You can do this without forcing
>your narrow view on the rest of us, Derek.

The problem is -- if the registry is polluted with bad data, then the
registry's data is worthless.

For an example of the problems inherent in this, please consult
whois.networksolutions.com at your leisure.

>You control that, Derek. You can adhere to the standard, and that is
>what your customers are getting. What you give them, Derek, is what
>they are REALLY getting. You are in complete control of that, on
>your own, and do not need to force the rest of the world to conform to
>that same standard.

I'm giving them access to a database that will (in time) suffer the same
problems as NSI. If there is committment to data integrity at the registrar
level, it's only a matter of time before the data is as worthless as NSI's.

>I do not consider accepting an email address to be affecting the
>quality or standard of service. Personally, I see anyone taking that
>high road to be overly rigid. And this is nothing personal, but the
>ones I see taking that road are typically your old school internet
>admins, who bemoan the state of the internet :)

Maybe because old-school internet types are the ones who remember when the
system worked - always. We remember when petty profit interests weren't put
before interoperability, stability, reliability, and standards-compliance.

Funny, I thought those were the GOOD features of the net? If wanting the
network to follow the rules is "old school", then I really _DO_ weep for
the future of the net.

>Great, you sell it that way. Personally, I don't see that nitpickiness
>as being a strong selling point, and instead see it as a disadvantage.
>The great part about the way OpenSRS could implement this is that it
>would satisfy us both, giving us both the tools to implement our
>views. Except for your need to enforce your view on the rest of us,
>that is :)
>
>I would hope that OpenSRS doing this would not affect your decision to
>remain an RSP. I really think there are higher, more important, issues
>than the
>parsing of an email address here.

The parsing of an e-mail address is a symptom of problems to come. If they
truly don't care about the data they collect to actually adhere to
standards, then what is the point of HAVING standards? Registrars, as I've
said before, are no place to 'play fast and loose' with standards.

And the answer is that, if OpenSRS _DOESN'T_ correct this, then, yes, as
soon as there are more registrars doing what SRS does, and one of them with
a committment to standards-compliance emerges, I would transfer everything
there in a hot second.

We should be taking the high ground versus NSI's practices... otherwise,
all we are is the same crappy NSI service at a cheaper price.

D



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