Can we get a word from OSRS on
what third parties purchased this bulk access?
--- Michael Brunson <brunson@intercosmos.com> wrote:
> Let's play a little game with Occam's Razor...
>
> Perhaps they took the lazy and lawful route of buying
> the WHOIS data?
>
> Why would openSRS (or any registrar) do this? Another
> simple answer, they must.
>
> Here are some relevant quotes, which some of you have
> probably seen many times:
>
> ---------------
> REGISTRAR ACCREDITATION AGREEMENT
> http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm
> [...]
>
> F. Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations. During
> the term of this Agreement:
> [...]
>
> 6. In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party
> bulk access to the data subject to public access
> under Section II.F.1 under the following terms and
> conditions:
>
> a. Registrar shall make a complete electronic copy of
> the data available at least one time per week for
> download by third parties who have entered into a
> bulk access agreement with Registrar.
>
> b. Registrar may charge an annual fee, not to exceed
> US$10,000, for such bulk access to the data.
>
> c. Registrar's access agreement shall require the
> third party to agree not to use the data to allow,
> enable, or otherwise support the transmission of
> mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or
> solicitations via e-mail (spam).
>
> d. Registrar's access agreement may require the third
> party to agree not to use the data to enable
> high-volume, automated, electronic processes that
> apply to Registrar (or its systems).
>
> e. Registrar's access agreement may require the third
> party to agree not to sell or redistribute the data
> except insofar as it has been incorporated by the
> third party into a value-added product or service
> that does not permit the extraction of a
> substantial portion of the bulk data from the
> value-added product or service for use by other
> parties.
>
> f. Registrar may enable SLD holders who are
> individuals to elect not to have Personal Data
> concerning their registrations available for bulk
> access for marketing purposes based on Registrar's
> "Opt-Out" policy, and if Registrar has such a
> policy Registrar shall require the third party to
> abide by the terms of that Opt-Out policy;
> provided, however, that Registrar may not use such
> data subject to opt-out for marketing purposes in
> its own value-added product or service.
> ---------------
>
> I think that pretty much speaks for itself. if not..
> Registrars must allow for companies to buy their WHOIS
> data. I don't like it anymore than anyone else we I get
> the letters and I dislike it even more when it takes
> customers, but since those are the current rules we
> shall live by them. If you want to change the rules,
> that is a different topic and a different list.
>
>
> Have a great night,
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 19:41:57 -0700, Genie Livingstone
> used a few recycled electrons to form:
>
> | It's being done all the time - they spread the lookups over several
> | unsuspecting whois script owners and time them about one whois
> querry
> | per so many seconds - we catch them all the time on our whois.cgi
> and
> | simply block that IP simply to find another rascal trying later,
> this is
> | one of the reasons we think livestats or similar visitor monitoring
> are
> | priceless to protect our IP from being banned since there are abuse
> | attempts by harvesters
> |
> | cheers
> | Genie
> |
> |
> | > How about the following scenario:
> | > 1. someone signed up for zone files (free)
> | > 2. someone2 wrote a perl script for someone for $50 (25/hr)
> | > that perl script does the following:
> | > opens zone file stored localy.
> | > queries using oroginal registrar whois server.
> | > looks if expiration date is in the next century or less,
> | > if this the case puts all necesarry information into template.
> | > when all zone file are done prints results.
> | > Then manyaly someone3 puts it into envelops an mails it (bulk)
> | > 3. someone gets payments from the customers of other registrars.
> | > 4. Since ICANN takes no action and this "additional" incomes
> saves the
> | > company from Ch 11. this info is priceless.
> |
> |
> |
>
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