> Can we get a word from OSRS on
> what third parties purchased this bulk access?
Certainly...
Thomson & Thomson
Hostway
Valueweb
Accurl
eMarkmonitor
Netnames
Snapnames
Dun & Bradstreet
This list is accurate as of this past Sunday. Also, attached is a sample of
our current agreement.
-rwr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oleg Chebotarev" <chebotarev@yahoo.com>
To: "Michael Brunson" <brunson@intercosmos.com>; <discuss-list@opensrs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Register.Com sending letters now???!!!
> Can we get a word from OSRS on
> what third parties purchased this bulk access?
> --- Michael Brunson <brunson@intercosmos.com> wrote:
> > Let's play a little game with Occam's Razor...
> >
> > Perhaps they took the lazy and lawful route of buying
> > the WHOIS data?
> >
> > Why would openSRS (or any registrar) do this? Another
> > simple answer, they must.
> >
> > Here are some relevant quotes, which some of you have
> > probably seen many times:
> >
> > ---------------
> > REGISTRAR ACCREDITATION AGREEMENT
> > http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm
> > [...]
> >
> > F. Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations. During
> > the term of this Agreement:
> > [...]
> >
> > 6. In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party
> > bulk access to the data subject to public access
> > under Section II.F.1 under the following terms and
> > conditions:
> >
> > a. Registrar shall make a complete electronic copy of
> > the data available at least one time per week for
> > download by third parties who have entered into a
> > bulk access agreement with Registrar.
> >
> > b. Registrar may charge an annual fee, not to exceed
> > US$10,000, for such bulk access to the data.
> >
> > c. Registrar's access agreement shall require the
> > third party to agree not to use the data to allow,
> > enable, or otherwise support the transmission of
> > mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or
> > solicitations via e-mail (spam).
> >
> > d. Registrar's access agreement may require the third
> > party to agree not to use the data to enable
> > high-volume, automated, electronic processes that
> > apply to Registrar (or its systems).
> >
> > e. Registrar's access agreement may require the third
> > party to agree not to sell or redistribute the data
> > except insofar as it has been incorporated by the
> > third party into a value-added product or service
> > that does not permit the extraction of a
> > substantial portion of the bulk data from the
> > value-added product or service for use by other
> > parties.
> >
> > f. Registrar may enable SLD holders who are
> > individuals to elect not to have Personal Data
> > concerning their registrations available for bulk
> > access for marketing purposes based on Registrar's
> > "Opt-Out" policy, and if Registrar has such a
> > policy Registrar shall require the third party to
> > abide by the terms of that Opt-Out policy;
> > provided, however, that Registrar may not use such
> > data subject to opt-out for marketing purposes in
> > its own value-added product or service.
> > ---------------
> >
> > I think that pretty much speaks for itself. if not..
> > Registrars must allow for companies to buy their WHOIS
> > data. I don't like it anymore than anyone else we I get
> > the letters and I dislike it even more when it takes
> > customers, but since those are the current rules we
> > shall live by them. If you want to change the rules,
> > that is a different topic and a different list.
> >
> >
> > Have a great night,
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 19:41:57 -0700, Genie Livingstone
> > used a few recycled electrons to form:
> >
> > | It's being done all the time - they spread the lookups over several
> > | unsuspecting whois script owners and time them about one whois
> > querry
> > | per so many seconds - we catch them all the time on our whois.cgi
> > and
> > | simply block that IP simply to find another rascal trying later,
> > this is
> > | one of the reasons we think livestats or similar visitor monitoring
> > are
> > | priceless to protect our IP from being banned since there are abuse
> > | attempts by harvesters
> > |
> > | cheers
> > | Genie
> > |
> > |
> > | > How about the following scenario:
> > | > 1. someone signed up for zone files (free)
> > | > 2. someone2 wrote a perl script for someone for $50 (25/hr)
> > | > that perl script does the following:
> > | > opens zone file stored localy.
> > | > queries using oroginal registrar whois server.
> > | > looks if expiration date is in the next century or less,
> > | > if this the case puts all necesarry information into template.
> > | > when all zone file are done prints results.
> > | > Then manyaly someone3 puts it into envelops an mails it (bulk)
> > | > 3. someone gets payments from the customers of other registrars.
> > | > 4. Since ICANN takes no action and this "additional" incomes
> > saves the
> > | > company from Ch 11. this info is priceless.
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
>
>
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