Domain Drops

From: Mark Petersen (mark@planet-nic.com)
Date: Wed Oct 23 2002 - 01:32:01 EDT


That's kind of what I thought it looked like. Nice double talk, huh? Geez!!!
I *thought* that was who the email was being addressed to.
I will say, however, that their site sometimes seems like just one big confusing loop with no
way to find what you're really looking for. I'll look again, but does anyone know off the top of
their head how to get a hold of the actual VGRS techs?
Thanks Genie,
-Mark
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Genie Livingstone
  To: discuss-list@opensrs.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Domain Drops

  Looks like you received the standard drone response when a consumer requests when a specific domain under Verisign aka Network Solutions Registrar will be deleted.

  You need to get to Verisign REGISTRY unit and ask them. Verisign Registrar is supposed to be completely separate from the Registry.

  The Registry should be deleting on the 4th or 5th sometimes 6th day from the delete command by any Registrar.... but I have seen cases when a domain that was given delete command by the Registrar still sat undeleted by Registry for many many weeks. Not one case, many many cases.

  hope this helps a little
  cheers
  Genie Livinstone
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Petersen
    To: discuss-list@opensrs.org
    Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:39 PM
    Subject: Domain Drops

    Hello All,
    I've been watching for a few domains to drop for a couple of clients of mine.
    A couple of them are well over 90 days past expiration. Their previous registrars
    say that they were submitted to VGRS weeks ago for deletion. I enquired about
    this with VGRS. Below is the response I received.
    <snip>

    Dear Mr. Petersen,

    Thank you for contacting VeriSign.

    VeriSign, Inc., periodically deletes domain names that are up
    for deletion in bulk since bulk deletion better enables us to
    insure that only those domain names that are actually up for
    deletion are properly deleted (as compared to running a deletion
    process).

    The dates on which these bulk deletions occur are arbitrarily
    selected by our engineering department based upon system loading
    and other technical factors. In order to protect against
    an overload of our systems, we do not disclose these deletion dates.

    You may, therefore, either continue to check our site for the
    availability of the domain name and attempt to obtain it through
    the public registration process, contact http://www.snapnames.com
    to attempt to back-order this domain, or, in the alternative, contact
    the listed registrant directly and discuss the possibility of
    executing a registrant name change agreement.

    To visit our WHOIS database to locate registrant information for
    a domain, please go to:

    http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois

    Best regards,

    Garvinne001
    VeriSign
    http://www.networksolutions.com
    </snip>

    Ok, first off...Wow!! What a boatload of mumbo jumbo double talk crap!!!!
    Secondly, didn't their used to be some limits as to when domains would be
    deleted once they were submitted for deletion by their registrars?
    Also, does it look to anyone else like perhaps the rules have been changed
    in order to give Version's WLS a possible advantage in the future? Maybe it's
    just me being paranoid, but that sure is what it looks like to me. I've certainly
    never waited this long (9 weeks) for a domain to drop after it's been submitted
    to drop in the past.

    Suggestions? Comments? Experiences?
    Thanks,
    Mark

    Mark Petersen mark@planet-nic.com
    Planet Nic http://www.planet-nic.com



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