Actually, the exact maneuver I was referring to was how they seize domains
which have *expired*.
I can't comment on Register.Com and charge backs, but I do have first hand
experience with then
changing the registrant information if you refuse to renew with them, then
holding the domain indefinitely.
I know for a fact that they DO change the information, and that they DO NOT
always submit for deletion.
2 clients of mine have domains that Register.Com has been holding in exactly
this status since they expired. One 3
months ago, the other 5 months ago. I know that, because they do it doesn't
make it right. But then, it's not right
that the rules only apply to those without the means to stagnate a legal
battle either.
-Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Daminato" <chuck@tucows.com>
To: "Mark Petersen" <mark@planet-nic.com>
Cc: "John T. Jarrett" <john@logonisp.com>; <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Changing Admin Info after Refund
> Precedence does not make it "right". I don't fully understand the
> legalities of it (Ross would have to explain - Ross?), but I
> believe Register does not take control of the domain (i.e. they
> don't assume ownership and sell to soemone else). They simply
> "hold" it, if it's not paid it stays on hold until the day it
> expires (then it goes up for deletion)
>
> Charles Daminato
> TUCOWS Product Manager
> chuck@tucows.com
>
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Mark Petersen wrote:
>
> > Stand on precedence. Register.Com is allowed to seize domains on a daily
> > basis.
> > The routinely change registrants WHOIS information from whatever *was*
there
> > to:
> >
> > register.com
> > Unpaid Names Department-R
> > 575 Eighth Avenue
> > New York, NY 10018
> > US
> > Phone: 212-798-9200
> > Fax..: 212-594-9876
> > Email: admin@register.com
> >
> > If they can do it, why shouldn't we be able to?
> > It's supposed to be a level playing field, right?
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark Petersen mark@planet-nic.com
> > Planet Nic http://www.planet-nic.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John T. Jarrett" <john@logonisp.com>
> > To: <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Changing Admin Info after Refund
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Paul over in compliance says it is against ICANN reg's for
> > > me to change admin info after a customer refunds on the
> > > domain name registration:
> > >
> > > "I hate to tell you this but you are not allowed to change
> > > the whois information - ICANN rules. It appears as though
> > > you are trying to take away someone else's property."
> > >
> > > Frankly, I couldn't care less how it looks. I've offered the
> > > refund codes from the merchant account holder LinkPoint
> > > themselves so there's proof behind appearances.
> > >
> > > Can y'all point me to what he's talking to? I can't find it
> > > in the UDRP or the Reg Agreement. I don't mind complying
> > > with written rules if I can find them, but I'd rather not
> > > let this woman steal three domain name registrations if I
> > > don't have to!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > > domains@logonisp.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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