As for the computer, I was not mocking or disputing. I was stating what
people recognize as fact. Hey, at least I didn't say it was IBM. I AM
surprised to hear that the germans did that in 1941 though. The NAZIS used
a DUTCH PATENTED machine to create codes. If they could have used the computer
to create better ones, it could have saved a lot of battles for them. Once
the allies got that patent, the encryption was all but worthless, especially
with the habits that the nazi soldiers and government had in correspondence.
OK I forgot about CERN, I'm sorry.
As for the CAR. I would not have claimed anyone but Benz created that.
Ford, in this country, was simply the first to bring it to the masses here.
Benz is also credited with the windshield wiper, seat belt, and several
other things.
Say what you want, but to say I was trying to start a fight over nationality,
etc... is rediculous. I was just trying to say that they should not charge
the VAT for MANY reasons.
HECK, The person credited with helping the americans with stealth technology
is a RUSSIAN! He published a paper that proved valuable.
Steve
>-- Original Message --
>From: siberger@gmx.li
>To: <stuff@inkiboo.com>, <steve@seasoned-software.com>, "'JB'" <info@bwp.net>
>Cc: <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
>Subject: Re: VAT stuff
>Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:31:57 +0200
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gerard McGovern" <stuff@inkiboo.com>
>To: <steve@seasoned-software.com>; "'JB'" <info@bwp.net>
>Cc: <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:57 AM
>Subject: RE: VAT stuff
>
>
>> As for the computer, what do you define as a computer? Charles Babbage
>could
>> be credited with inventing the first computer. The computer you refer
to
>was
>> made at Bletchley Heath in England and helped crack the codes produced
>by
>> the German Enigma machine. Without a shadow of a doubt it shortened the
>> length f the war by three years. It predates the first American computer
>by
>> a few years and was not destroyed. From memory one exists at the Science
>> Museum in London.
>
>"Many encyclopedias and other reference works state that the first
>large-scale automatic digital computer was the Harvard Mark 1, which was
>developed by Howard H. Aiken (and team) in America between 1939 and 1944.
>However, in the aftermath of World War II it was discovered that a program
>controlled computer called the Z3 had been completed in Germany in 1941,
>which means that the Z3 pre-dated the Harvard Mark I."
>http://www.epemag.com/zuse/
>
>"The exhibition provides for the first time an overview of the life,
>inventions, and the artistic work of Konrad Zuse, who today enjoys worldwide
>recognition as the inventor of the first computers."
>http://www.dtmb.de/Aktuelles/Sonderausstellungen/Zuse_Ausstellung/body_en.ht
>ml
>
>
>>> Next they'll be telling us they invented the motor car.
>
>"A lot of people agree that the inventor of the car was Karl Benz. Karl
Benz
>was an engineer and inventor who lived in Germany during the late 1800's
>and
>early 1900's. On January 29, 1886 Karl Benz patented the first car. On
July
>3, 1886 it was first demonstrated for the public in Mannheim, Germany....
>A few years later in 1876 another man named Nikolous Augustus Otto invented
>a better kind of internal combustion engine in Germany. This kind of engine
>is very similar in principle to what is used in most cars today.
>After the invention of the Internal Combustion Engine it was easier to
make
>a car that was small enough and reliable enough to be practicle. Just like
>with the steam cars, a lot of people were trying to come up with an internal
>cumbustion engine car at the same time. The two most important people were
>Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz. Both of these men patented a car in Germany
>in 1886 but Karl Benz patented his first so most people say he invented
the
>car.
>A few years later, Karl Benz's company and Gottlieb Daimler's company merged
>and became Daimler-Benz. This is the company that makes the Mercedes-Benz
>brand of cars. The name Mercedes came from a man who raced and sold
>Daimler-Benz cars. The man's name was Emil Jellinek. He had a daughter
named
>Mercedes and he decided to name the cars he sold after her. The name became
>famous and the Daimler-Benz company has continued to use it until today."
>http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/844045821.Eg.r.html
>
>
>
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