Re: chutzpah

From: Swerve (Swerve@swerve.com)
Date: Tue Jan 27 2004 - 15:50:18 EST


At minimum, you should see the full contact info of the person requesting
the transfer. Of course, there will be those who will spoof identities.

Swerve

on 1/27/04 11:54 AM, Mark E. Mallett at mem@mv.mv.com wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 05:04:00PM -0700, Jim McAtee wrote:
>>
>> It's an imperfect system, but I don't see what requesting a domain transfer
>> violates.
>>
>> If I call you on the telphone and ask you to transfer the title to your car
>> to me, you're likely to tell me to go to hell. If you're really stupid and
>> say yes, without my deceiving or threatening you, then guess what? The car's
>> mine.
>>
>> I would think approximately the same applies with domain names. If you're
>> deceived into approving a transfer, you have recourse to get the domain back,
>> though I highly doubt you have recourse beyond that. Like the letter said,
>> it's up to you to reject the request.
>
> Sorry for the late reply. My point is not that the system allows
> legitimate domain name transfers, or even mistakes by people who don't
> know they are doing something wrong. It's not even that I can prevent
> it, which I can and did. The point is that there is a wall between
> people who are knowingly attempting to gain a domain name by tricking
> people-- between those people and their victims. As I mentioned in my
> initial posting, you used to be able to tell who it was who initiated
> the request. I'd like to see that information be made available to
> the victim, or at the very least, I'd like to see some kind of policy
> that would provide even a little amount of punishment or any
> disincentive to the people who attempt these things.
>
> A further aggravation (as I said) is that very pointed comments to NSI
> to this effect get only replies to things I didn't say. "Can you
> either tell me who did this, or do some kind of followup yourselves?"
> "we recommend that you refuse the request." "that wasn't the question;
> what about some kind of followthrough against these scammers?" "we
> recommend that you lock your domain." like, argh.
>
>
> George Kirikos's reply was to the point:
>
>> A system that would help identify more thieves would scare most of
>> them away --- let them go back to selling crack or other illicit
>> behaviour, instead of stealing domains.
>
> Anyway, enough on that. I fully expect somebody else to now tell me to
> lock my domain and refuse the transfer.
>
> mm



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